Anyone remember what was novel about development on NeXT?
bofh at stremler.net
Wed Feb 1 01:14:27 PST 2006
begin quoting David M. Cook as of Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 11:10:39PM -0800:
> I looked at GNU Smalltalk and Squeak. Squeak seemed more oriented toward
> graphics and multimedia than typical GUI programming.
Squeak has the kitchen-sink problem... It Does Everything.
Plus it's kinda garish.
> And I don't really
> like doing all programming within an interface, being a text editor kind of
> guy. Once layout is done, I prefer to do everything else in plain text
Yeah, most Smalltalks, it's language + environment + libraries. Take the
whole thing as one package, and be happy, or else. :-/
But with a good layout manager, you can do _everything_ in plain text files. :)
[snip - interface builder clunky]
> How so? I understand the problem with the mouse, although there may be ways
> to get around it, I don't have enough experience with it to say.
I'm comparing it to my memories of the Delphi and VisualBasic builders,
which were (IIRC) pretty polished, so far as they went. (I was
impressed with Delphi's ability to dynamically draw widgets as you typed
in the code. Use the GUI to build, or type in code... Alas, I've never
gotten around to checking out the Linux-descendent of Delphi.)
> That would be nice. Or if you could serialize to, say, XML, which could
> then be processed however you like.
Oh, I would weep. :)
> I don't care for code generation unless
> the code will never be mixed with my own.
Well, the one advantage of code generation is that you can look at the
generated code, pick out the important bits, and then discard it and do
I'm with you on not mixing my code and generated code... it makes for a
mess. I'm less enamoured by mixing my code and serialized objects/data;
possibly because I've been burned so often by serialized data objects in
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