Contrarian POV on apt-get
bofh at stremler.net
Sat Jun 5 01:13:48 PDT 2004
begin quoting Tracy R Reed as of Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 11:45:32PM -0700:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 09:22:57AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV spake thusly:
> > Debian has never supported downgrades. In reality, it would be near
> > impossible to. It would require knowing, IN ADVANCE, any future changes
> > to any config file or format file to be able to handle the downgrade.
> Only way to really do downgrades I think is to use something like LVM to
> regress the state of your whole system.
Hopefully not including /home and friends.
> Point grub to your snapshot and
> reboot making the snapshot the live filesystem then delete the aborted
> upgrade. This is similar to but much faster than restoring from backup.
But what partitions do you restore? What happens when I install A and
then B, and then I realize A is broke and B is wonderful, so I want to
downgrade A but not B?
> I have a feeling that real package management is going to be an
> intractable problem.
It's just book-keeping. If you allow for sufficient disk, it's probably
> Computers are not getting simpler as time goes on.
> They are getting more complex. They may occasionally seem to get easier to
> use but what goes on behind the scenes and can possibly break continues to
> get more intricate as we add layers.
Especially with a sizable number of developers out there trying to be
Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by
definition, not smart enough to debug it. - Brian W. Kernighan
-Stewart "It's not that hard to out-think yourself." Stremler
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