rbrwill at pacbell.net
Fri Apr 30 16:30:43 PDT 2004
On Fri, 2004-04-30 at 12:45, Mike Easter wrote:
> <citing manufactured, since I had to scrape these posts from the kplug
> > Mike Easter wrote:
> >> There seems to be a lot more talk here about getting the mail out
> than there is about 'perfect' list management. The biggest problem you
> are going to encounter is what you've done wrong [or failed to do
> properly] about your list management, not what you've done wrong about
> getting it out.
> > You are of course correct and thanks for the links they will help me.
> As for the people I am trying to help I have to bridge them between the
> naked "how do we get it out" to a more rational method which as you
> point out requires its own diligent management.
> What you are going to find, probably, is that you don't have a
> legitimate mailing list at all - ie not properly documented confirmed
> opt-in. Then you are going to be 'called upon' to try to make a 'clean'
> or good list out of a 'dirty' list - else some poor soul has to try to
> create a good optin list from absolute scratch or 'de novo'.
> You are getting ready to get into a dirty list business, I predict.
> Mike Easter
Actually if it was a bogus bs spam huckster shyster (well you get my
feeling about spam) I wouldn't even bother this list with help with
ideas. The list involved here is the list of confirmed organizations and
reporting entities interested in their activities that these models have
gathered over the last 7 years or so and have transitioned from snail
mailing to e-mailing and asked for help after problems. Their
"qualifications" as models makes it no surprise that they have an
international list interested in their activities... Trust me.
I do see your point about lists and the why people usually run them.
Boy, remember the "good old days" when every SMTP server was an open
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